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Hi,
I am looking for a new laptop and the Nexus is on my short list.
I do however have a question re the display resolution and finish.
From the Home page click on gaming notebooks, the Nexus is the first of 4 options, the second item in the list under the Nexus image - SCREEN - states "15" WSXGA Matt LCD TFT".
Go further to customise the Nexus and the Display options show the WSXGA as X-Glass "glossy" or
WUXGA matt.
So which is right? - hopefully the former!
As a side question can the 17" display (WUXGA) on the Comanche (for me not SLI) be special ordered as matt? (Off topic in my first post - bad David!)
Just for the record I absolutely will not buy a laptop with a glossy display, just a personal preference.
Regards
David
neil@kobalt
21-08-08, 22:16
Hi David
That's a typo on the laptop page unfortunately, our fault.
The WSXGA 1680 x 1050 is X-Glas/glossy
the WUXGA 1920 x 1200 is matt
I am affraid that the chassis come with a screen, we choose the resolution but if there isn't a WSXGA matt screen (for example) available then we can't offer it:mad: The 1920 x 1200 is matt though so it might solve the problem with a little extra cost.
Hi Neil,
Not the answer I wanted but the one I expected.
The extra for the WUXGA Matt is not an issue for me, 15.4" WUXGA is!
17" WUXGA Matt would work - any Kobalt solution?
Regards
David
(off to walk the dog - bed is calling - goodnight!)
Damn...so no matt 15.4'' Matt WSXGA?
Personaly i prefer the WXGA on a 15.4'' notebook
I don't think Kobalt offer matte screens on any of their 17" laptops. I know that some clevo resellers do sell the M570TU with a Matte screen but I have only seen them in the USA. Kobalt might be able to source you a one off but it would probably be difficut and quite expensive.
It might be worth looking at Dell as they offer a variety of different screens on their notebooks, and many of them are matte. You could also try the Rock Direct Pegasus 520 - that is the only performance 15.4" notebook I know of which has a matte screen.
Really hate Dell thats why i'm looking for clevo built notebooks...but eh no biggy i wanted to buy a separate 19" lcd anyway(gameing) :P...and i dont think office based application are that bad on X-Glass
Got a question...for a 15.4" display WSXGA what is the best resolution to keep it on?
Got a question...for a 15.4" display WSXGA what is the best resolution to keep it on?
Native resolution is always best - once you go below this then the display gets a bit blocky - not bad but depends what you are using it for - games should be fine!
Hmmm...this came hard to swallow because i dont know how much will a notebook with a WSXGA resolution survive in gaming...it's kinda big :( the WXGA would have been more than enough...2 bad guess is not worth buying...i'm so sad :(
andrew@kobalt
22-08-08, 12:01
Native resolution is always best - once you go below this then the display gets a bit blocky - not bad but depends what you are using it for - games should be fine!
Guys,
Sorry about the typo on the site, I'll get that fixed.
You are correct, most people will notice little difference running a game at 1680x1050 rather than 1920x1200 on a 15.4". Windows general usage though it will be blocky running at non-native.. unfortunately nothing you can do about that. We're limited by what screens are made available for the chassis so are hands are tied unfortunately. We were hoping and expecting their to be a Mat WSXGA but alas it wasn't to be.
Brgds
Andrew
I was under the impression that Clevo offered 4 different screens on the M860TU:
15.4" WXGA(1280x800) TFT LCD (Glossy)
15.4" WXGA+ (1440x900) TFT LCD (Matte)
15.4" WSXGA+ (1680x1050) TFT LCD (Glossy)
15.4" WUXGA (1920x1200) TFT LCD (Matte)
Heliosvector
22-08-08, 15:29
that was the expected availability when the manual was released. but that is no longer the case. Also, clevo dont offer us the screens, they offer the reseller the screens, so it depends on what clevo resellers offer us.
Personally I don't get the popularity of the Glossy display with Laptop suppliers/builders, wouldn't be so bad if each size/resolution choice was offered in either matt/glossy build.
I am struggling to find a laptop with the build spec I desire and a matt screen - forums I have checked all seem to have a thread wanting matt screen options to Laptop ranges. It seems the builders are not taking much notice.
At this sorry rate I can see myself ending up with a Dell Precision M6300 (however I think I will hold on to see if it gets updated like its new siblings)- downside is currently having to go with a Quadro graphics. Not my ideal but at this point better than a glossy screen. A Radeon mobility 4850 might just sneak in if I'm lucky, the Quadro has a high power demand so perhaps the Radeon will end up in the same region or perhaps a bit under the Quadro making it OK for the Precision.
Oh well back to the waiting game - again!
(Such a pity! - the Nexus was customisable to pretty much my ideal Laptop bar the Glossy LCD!)
neil@kobalt
22-08-08, 20:49
DavidC, I have to agree with you there but there's not a huge ammount we as a "reseller" can do. We only have the display options offered to us by the chassis manufacturer and though we do have demand for matt 1680 x 1050 displays we unfortunately can't so much about it atm.
For now the 1920 x 1200 is matt which you can reduce to 1680 x 1050 in Windows or up the dpi in 1920 x 1200 to 120 dpi whilst still having 1920 x 1200 for games
DavidC, I have to agree with you there but there's not a huge ammount we as a "reseller" can do. We only have the display options offered to us by the chassis manufacturer and though we do have demand for matt 1680 x 1050 displays we unfortunately can't so much about it atm.
For now the 1920 x 1200 is matt which you can reduce to 1680 x 1050 in Windows or up the dpi in 1920 x 1200 to 120 dpi whilst still having 1920 x 1200 for games
You don't give up Neil - commendable!
I would hope as a reseller you have the opportunity to inform your supplier and therefore Clevo of the market they are missing out on.
As for the WUXGA Nexus - If it were just for everyday office apps then I agree I could get away with it. However I have a CAD requirement, native res use is a must for CAD.
Also native WUXGA for games pushes the graphics card a bit more than WSXGA so I would prefer a better card than 9800GTS for Gaming at WUXGA.
Why is nothing ever straight forward!!!
rgds
David
Even though I am sure Kobalt does feed back information to Clevo, they are quite a small reseller compared to some of the larger ones such as Sager and Novatech so I think Clevo would be less interested in Kobalt's oppinion...
(This isn't meant to reflect negatively on Kobalt)
yeah but u're one of the few reselers in europe...all big companies are mostly american so this should be an advantage no?
Heliosvector
23-08-08, 00:08
you know, you could get the WUXGA screen (matte) and reduce the res to a WSXGA amount.
I know people say it makes the quality not great when not using native, but i can tell the difference between 720p and 1080p, so i doubt a few hundred lines will make a huge loss.
There are actually quite a few resellers in europe such as Novatech, Rock, MyCizmo, PCW.fr, Rizeon etc. That aside, Clevo will still be more interested in the larger resellers in the States because after all, it doesn't matter where their customers are, it are the biggest ones who have the biggest influence on their products.
neil@kobalt
23-08-08, 17:37
Even though I am sure Kobalt does feed back information to Clevo, they are quite a small reseller compared to some of the larger ones such as Sager and Novatech so I think Clevo would be less interested in Kobalt's oppinion...
(This isn't meant to reflect negatively on Kobalt)
I understand what you're saying but it's a little more complicated than that.
Rock are the biggest Clevo importer in the UK (well they were before the administration probs, not sure what the figures are now) but Sager was still at least 10 times the size or Rock so ultimately you could argue that Clevo will only listen to Sager! Also, don't forget that a company is usually much bigger than their "public face", especially in IT. You will find that companies that often look more corporate and that people don't mention too much on UK forums are actually much bigger than they seem due to distribution and B2B sales.
Clevo do listen to all their customers but because we also deal with Clevo importers outside the UK on a regular basis (who are bigger than Rock or Novatech etc) we pass our thoughts onto them so although we may be moderately sized, we have bigger boys fighting our corner:)
Heliosvector
23-08-08, 23:00
maybe if they tried to offer the products fairly, they could create a healthier market over here.
For instance, how many games dont even make it over to here and are only released in the US. How many sites are there that make millions off of foureign game purchases.
Its so bad that i bet it even adds to the issue of piracy.
If you give the fat man more food, he is bound to eat more, no matter what. The little guy doesnt even get a chance.
Feed both evenly and the thin man gets bigger. soon he leaves less and less leftovers and we have 2 fat guys.
I know the global markets is not as simple as that analogy, but its a start.
andrew@kobalt
24-08-08, 22:37
It's extremely fustrating for us I have to say. You see other countries getting product before us and at cheaper prices.. it's all down to economies of scale. Unfortunately it will never change so we have to lump it :mad: It's the same in a lot of other industries though, not just limited to IT.
You never know... one day Kobalt might be bigger than Rock / Novatech / Sager :)
Heliosvector
25-08-08, 19:55
I hope not, because that when they go bad. no offence neil and andrew.
I'd just be happy with a Matt screen the size and resolution I want.
(I know it's not Kobolt's fault, it's industry wide, I was hoping to find a reliable U.K. supplier so I could move away from Dell. I hoped Kobolt would be the one but Clevo in their wisdom have tied the sensible resolutions to 'GLOSSY' build)
I already have a UXGA laptop and its this I have based my decision that 15.4" WUXGA is to high a resolution in too small an area. WSXGA+ is the highest I am prepared to go to on a 15.4" display.
17" WUXGA I would take!!
(Comanche 2 (Montevina, DDR3 etc) 17" WUXGA Matt/glossy option, I'm holding my breath 'NOW')
I have a few months left before I make a decision to buy, I do however wonder how many buyers would have choosen a Matt screen over Glossy if they had been given the choice.
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